Veteran Stigma: “What Does My Country think of Me?”
Veteran Stigma: “What Does My Country think of Me?”
As if to pour salt on the physical and psychological wounds of millions of America’s veterans, a recent trend has emerged in both public pronouncements and privately held attitudes that suggests that veterans returning from the ‘long wars’ in Iraq and Afghanistan pose a security risk to potential employers, fellow workers, and workplace patrons.
“I cannot be open about my post traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) with prospective employers in light of the Homeland Security debacle,” says former Army Sgt. and Iraq veteran Steve Kraft. “It’s like a scarlet letter.”
The “debacle” Sgt. Kraft refers to means comments made by Janet Napolitano, Secretary of the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), citing a section of an April 7, 2009, DHS Report titled “Disgruntled Military Veterans” to the effect that “DHS assesses that right-wing extremists will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans…suffering from the psychological effects of war.”
“Having been singled out by the media for attention, Napolitano’s statement surely discourages would-be employers from considering hiring veterans applying for jobs, especially in an uncertain economy.”
But while the DHS incident lingers in the minds of the public, it isn’t the only highly publicized case of veterans stigmatized for their courageous and honorable military service.
A scandal at Penn State erupted in February when the University’s Counseling and Psychological Services (CAPS) department posted a contentious video on its website. Produced as part of a package to help faculty deal with “worrisome student behaviors,” the video depicted an angry young veteran and a professor who felt threatened by him. Unhappy with his grade, the veteran threatens the professor and says he deserves a better grade, “or else.”
Former Petty Officer 3rd Class Maggie Kwok, a 25-year-old Chinese-American sophomore and the President of Penn State’s Veterans Organization was shocked by the University video.
“I can’t believe they made this video about us,” recalled the former Navy Corpsman of the incident when it happened.
“Veterans on campus were very upset,” said the veteran of Guantanamo and Iraq.
The university responded to the veterans’ concerns by removing the video.
And yet, the stigma that veterans face has, as Sgt. Kraft feels, turned into widespread employment discrimination, precisely at a time when getting a job is especially difficult.
Major Matt Tully, a New York Army National Guardsman and an attorney in his civilian life, specializes in fighting the employment discrimination faced by many veterans of the Iraq and Afghanistan campaigns.
“It’s a growing problem,” said Major Tully, “higher now than at any other time in the past.”
According to a 2007 GAO Report, only 1 in 10 veterans files a Uniformed Services Employment and Reemployment Rights Act (USERRA) complaint.
“It used to be that employers didn’t know that it was illegal to discriminate against veterans who served in the Reserve or National Guard,” said Major Tully. “Now, employers intentionally disregard USERRA.”
Due to the long wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, employers have taken steps to lay off those Reservists who are called up to Active Duty.
“For example, an airline pilot who deploys to Iraq for a year…” said Major Tully, “…has to be retrained upon his return, which costs a lot of money and overtime.”
In recent years, the Departments of Labor (DOL) and Justice (DOJ) have taken a much harder stance against the discrimination facing military reservists now that violations are becoming more flagrant.
The growing problem is also being discussed and debated in Congress.
In January 2009, Rep. Lloyd Doggett [D-TX], sponsored H.R. 466, the “Wounded Veteran Job Security Act.” If passed, the bill would prohibit “…any employment discrimination or acts of reprisal against any person who has, or who has been treated for, an injury, illness, or disability determined by the Secretary of Veterans’ Affairs to have been incurred in, or aggravated by, military service.”
According to testimony by Congressman Doggett, “…the amount of time required for the treatment of a veteran’s service-connected disability exceeds the amount of vacation and sick leave allotted to the veteran. Some employers have viewed this as grounds to terminate veterans, leaving them faced with an impossible choice – whether to continue receiving the treatment that they need or to keep the job that supports them.”
But many veterans aren’t even able to get a foot in the doorways of potential employers.
Rick Jackson, the Program Coordinator for New York State’s “Troops to Teachers Program,” is worried that his office will soon shut down.
“School principals have PTSD in the back of their minds after DHS put out their ‘terrorist watch’ for veterans,” said Jackson.
“Many principals seem to have the attitude that ‘All these guys [veterans] do is yell and scream and I’m not going to have that in my hallway.”
In a labor market that is contracting rather than expanding, seeing the hiring of returning veterans as unnecessarily risky puts those military personnel behind the 8-ball in terms of landing jobs.
For many veterans, dealing with the stigma attached to their wounds isn’t something easy to do.
Retired Army Capt. Mark Brogan was severely wounded in 2006 when an improvised explosive devise (IED) blasted his HMMWV (“Humvee”) while on patrol in Iraq.
“I’m leery of putting down PTSD or TBI on an application for work or school,” said Capt. Brogan. “I am concerned with back-door discrimination.”
While former Army Sgt. Steve Kraft applies for federal jobs in New York City, he participates in group therapy for PTSD twice a week.
“It potentially can affect me a great deal if I get a job offer” said Kraft of the growing discrimination against America’s veterans.
“The way veterans are being mistreated makes me wonder, ‘What does my country think of me?’”
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Posted on June 7th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
CHARLES MARTEL Says:
MY FELLOW VETS., JUST FINISHED A VIDEO MARATHON WITH ”THE BAND OF BROTHERS” AND I FLASHED UPON THE TRUTH PRESENTED TO DUMBED DOWN AMERICANS IN THE MOVIES,THE KILLING FIELDS, BORN ON THE FOURTH, THE CLASSIC, ”PATTON”, PLATOON, SAVING PRIVATE RYAN, APOCALYPSE NOW, BRAVE HEART, EL CID,,, BILLY, YES BILLY JACK… AMERICA NEVER DID GET IT, WITH ALL THE ”TRUTH” PUT IN FRONT OF THEIR STUPID FACES, THEIR STUPID BRAINS,.. AMERICANS ARE BELLY WORSHIPERS WHO FOR THEIR COMFORT ZONES AND APOSTATE VERSIONS CHRISTIANITY, RAPTUREITES,,, THEY WILL SEND ”US” OFF TO DIE IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THEIR STANDARD OF LIVING…
I REMEMBER DEALING EVEN WITH THOSE WEARING THE SAME UNIFORM I DID, 1966-1970, I REMEMBER THE REAR ECHELON IDIOTS, THE R.E.M.F.S.,,, WE GRUNTS WERE SEPARATE FROM THEM, WE ”COMBAT” TROOPERS, BAPTIZED, GALVANIZED, BAPTIZED BY BLOOD AND IN BLOOD COULDN’T EVEN ACTUALLY TALK TO OR WITH THEM ABOUT ANYTHING, THEY WERE NOT THERE, THEY WERE BASICALLY 9 TO 5 TYPES WHO SIMPLY KNEW HOW TO PUT ON A UNIFORM, MARCH CRUDELY AND COMPLAIN ABOUT THE FIRST SERGENT….. ”THE F&*%’N ”R.E.M.F.S, THE BASTARD’S…!” I REMEMBER, ITS IN MY BLOOD AND SOUL, IN A SINGLE BLINK OF MY EYES I AM, I AM THERE AND NONE OF THEM ARE, THE ”THEM’S”, THE R.E.M.F.S. AND CIVILIANS…ARE NOT THERE, ONLY GOD MY FATHER IS THERE AND, SMITTY, FRANKLIN, JONES, FREDDY THE COOK, SGT ROCCO, LIEUTENANT STAR, ANDERSON AND BLYTHE THE MEDICS, KOWALSKEY THE COMMO GENIUS, THIS GUY WAS SECOND ONLY TO NICOLA TESLA, AND COL.RICHARDSON, I RESPECTED THAT MAN… HE DID EVERYTHING IN HIS POWER TO GET ME TO RE-UP AND GO ”GREEN BEANIE”… GOD BLESS THIS MAN FOREVER…. SFC, WASSON, S.F. THIS MAN IS ONE OF THE ETERNAL ROUND TABLE,,, TRUE KNIGHT OF CHRIST, A ETERNAL REAL KNIGHT UNCORRUPTED, OF THE REAL KNIGHTS TEMPLAR,,, LOVE AND TOTAL COURAGE MADE SFC WASSON… HE TAUGHT ME TO LAUGH AT DEATH BUT RESPECT ITS APPOINTMENT, SFC WASSON MANEFESTED ABSOLUTE AND TOTAL MANHOOD, HE LAUGHED LIKE SANTA CLAUS AND WEPT LIKE SAINT FRANCIS OF ASISSI… SFC WASSON, SERGENT WASSON LOVED, LOVED,LOVED, LOVED, LOVED US, HIS MEN FOR HE KNEW THAT WE WERE ONE, THERE IS A BIT OF SERGENT WASSON IN ME NOW, WE HAD COMMUNION… SERGENT WASSON’S ANGER MADE GENERALS PISS THEIR PANTS BECAUSE ”IT WAS TRUTH”, HE ATE LIEUTENANTS AND CAPTAINS FOR BREAKFAST WITH JUST HIS PRESENCE AND THEY ALL KNEW IT…..
THERE WAS NO FLAG FLYING FOR US, THERE WAS SIMPLY ‘US”, THE ”USA” ACTUALLY WAS A FAR DISTANT SOMETHING THAT WE ALL SENSED TOGETHER IN A COSMIC COMMUNICATION-COMMUNICATING, THE ”US-A” FOR ”US” WOULD SOMEHOW CEASE TO EXIST, SOMEHOW, SOMEHOW WE KNEW WE WOULD BE ”DIFFERENT” FROM THEN ON, OUTCAST IN A WAY FROM WHAT WE HAD LEFT BEHIND ONLY TO BECOME ”SOLDIERS’…….”MOTHER”, NO,NO MOTHER, ”DAD”,NO,NO DAD,,,”HERO.” GET OUT OF MY FACE YOU ”CIVILIAN VOMIT”, YOU PUKE BAGS
GENERAL GEORGE S. PATTON KNEW AT THE END OF WW.2 BEFORE HE WAS MURDERED BY U.S. CORPORATE INTEREST, THAT FROM THEN ON THERE WOULD BE NO CONCERN FOR AMERICAN SOLDIERS AND HE PROPHESIED THIS TRUTH TO GENERAL BRADLEY JUST BEFORE HIS MURDER.. … WHAT FOLLOWED PATTON AND WW-II??? KOREA,VIETNAM, PANAMA, NOT TO FORGET THE DOMINICAN REPUBLIC, GRENADA, DESERT STORM NUMBER ONE AND NUMBER TWO, ALL ”BULL SHIT” WARS, GENERAL PATTON AT THE END OF WW-2 KNEW THAT EVEN WW-2 WAS ”BULL SHIT”…!
THERE WAS A ROMAN GENERAL WHO WAS CAMPAIGNING IN GERMANY TO STOP THE GERMAN HORDES, HE WAS THERE FOR YEARS. HE WAS CALLED BACK TO ROME DUE TO THE FACT THAT THE EMPEROR HAD DIED AND THEY WANTED TO MAKE HIM THE NEW EMPEROR… THIS ROMAN GENERAL UPON HIS RETURN OBSERVED THAT WHICH SHE HAD BECOME, CORRUPT FROM BOTTOM TO TOP AND FROM TOP TO THE BOTTOM…HIS RESPONSE TO THEIR DEMANDS THAT HE BECOME THEIR NEW EMPEROR WAS PATTON LIKE, ”ROME IS NOT WORTHY OF DEFENDING, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF ME NOR ARE YOU WORTHY OF THE SACRIFICES OF MY MEN…!” ”YOU OF ROME,YOU MOCK GOD ALL OF YOU, WITH THE VERY WAY YOU EAT YOUR FOOD, ENGAGE IN TRADE, WITH WHAT YOU HAVE BECOME AS A PEOPLE YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF ME NOR MY MEN…” ROME, YOUR WOMEN ARE IN REBELLION, YOUR MEN HAVE NO HONOR AND ARE EFFEMINATE, YOU ARE FILTHY ROME AND I WILL NOT BE YOUR EMPEROR…!” HE RETURNED TO HIS VETS IN GERMANY PREFERRING SLEEPING ON THE GROUND AND IN THE SNOW WITH HIS MEN OF HONOR THAN TO PARTAKE WITH ALL THE WHOREISH COMFORTS THAT ROME COULD AND WOULD OFFER HIM… BASICALLY IN NO UNCERTAIN WORDS HE TOLD ROME, ”GO TO HELL”,WHICH SHE DID…. AMERICA IS NOT WORTHY OF HER SOLDIERS, AMERICA IS NOT WORTHY ANY LONGER OF ONE DROP OF BLOOD BEING SHED OR TO BE SHED IN HER DEFENSE OR FOR IT… DEFEND WHAT, A WHORES HONOR……..?????? NO WHORE, BE IT MALE OR FEMALE HAS HONOR, THE ONES THAT THINK DELUDED THAT THEY ARE RIGHTEOUS IS THE WHORE ABOMINABLE, THE WHORE DELUDED TO BE RIGHTEOUS IS THE ABOMINATION , THIS IS AMERICA TODAY, THE UGLY SLUT THAT THINKS SHE IS ATTRACTIVE… THE WHORE JEZEBEL IS AMERICA, SHE ALLURES MEN TO CONTROL THEM, THEN SHE DESTROYS THEM, ALL REAL WHORES HATE, HATE, HATE REAL MEN, SO IT WAS, SO IT IS, AND SO IT SHALL BE UNTIL THE END… THE END? THE END IS FAST APPROACHING, EVEN AS I WRITE THESE WORDS SHE,,, LADY VENGEANCE COMES TO VISIT AMERICA, FIRE OF THE TRUE GOD OF JUDGMENT, JESUS , FIRE SENT TO BURN AMERICA TO THE GROUND FOR HER SIN…..
AMERICA IS NOT WORTH IT, PERHAPS SHE NEVER WAS WORTH IT WHEN YOU STUDY HISTORY YOU SEE THE UGLY WHORE OF AMERICA FOR WHAT SHE IS…. ALL I KNOW IS THAT I REMEMBER MY BROTHERS, I REMEMBER THEIR LAUGHTER, THEIR TEARS, THEIR NAKED HONESTY, JOYS, ANGER AND SORROWS, I DON’T REMEMBER ANY FLAGS AT ALL…
ONE OF THE WORST DAYS OF MY LIFE WAS WHEN I GOT BACK TO ”THE WORLD”,THE STATES, AND WAS CALLED A BABY KILLER, I DID WANT TO KILL THEM FOR THEIR INSULTS BUT I COULD SEE THAT ”THEY” WERE NOT WORTH IT…
THE REASON WHY AMERICANS DON’T LIKE OR TRUST VETS IS BECAUSE THEY KNOW IN THEIR HEART THAT THEY, ALL OF THEM, THEY BETRAYED US, LIED TO US, USED US AND THEY KNOW WE KNOW, NOW THEY FEAR, THEY FEAR BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT WE CAN DO, OR COULD DO BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN THERE….THE COLLECTIVE FEAR OF AMERICA AGAINST HER VETS IS SIMPLY A MANIFESTATION OF ””GUILT”’..SOME THINGS ARE TRULY SO UGLY AND PATHETIC [PEOPLE] THAT IT, THEY, ILLICIT SOMETHING FROM US BEYOND HATE, THEY MAKE US GIVE BIRTH TO PITY…
I DON’T KILL ANYTHING ANY LONGER,,,., NOT EVEN BUGS IF I CAN HELP IT,,, NOW I LET MY FATHER [GOD] DO MY KILLING FOR ME…! THERE ARE MILLIONS WHO ARE GOING TO BE KILLED, MILLIONS, UPON MILLIONS KILLED DEAD… THESE ARE THE LAST DAYS OF PLANET EARTH, WERE IN IT FOLKS, DECEMBER 21-2012 AND JESUS RETURNS… ”I TRULY AM A SHORT TIMER NOW, A LITTLE OVER A THOUSAND DAYS AND WAKE UP…!”
I’M OUT’A HERE MY BROTHERS, SEE YA ON THE OTHER SIDE IN THE GREAT FORMATION,,, WE ALL SHALL STAND AT ATTENTION AND SALUTE THE WORTHY GENERAL OF THE ARMY,,,HE ALONE WILL DISMISS THE FORMATION AND THEN WE ARE ALL GOING TO PARTY… HE WILL SAY ” WELL DONE MY SOLDIERS”,,,
”” MY BROTHERS, DISMISSED…!”’, AMEN…!”
HA,HA, MY OWN AMERICAN WIFE TURNED ON ME LIKE A COBRA FOR JUST LOOKING OUT THE WINDOW, SHE THOUGHT I WAS GOING THROUGH A FLASH BACK AND WAS A DANGER… I TELL NO ONE NOW THAT I’M A VET, A VET CAN SPOT ANOTHER VET FROM 100 METERS, I CAN…! MY WIFE BROKE MY HEART 100 TIMES, BETRAYAL, ADULTERY, THEFT, LIES, DECEPTION, INTRIGUE,BUT THEN I KNEW WHAT TO EXPECT WHEN I GOT BACK TO THE STATES… WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT FROM AMERICAN WOMEN…?. WENT TO CHURCH FOR A WHILE, CHURCH WOMEN IN THIS COUNTRY ARE GENERALLY THE WORST WHORES OF THEM ALL, AIN’T THIS SIMPLY TO BE EXPECTED IN AMERICA..?
I TELL THE YOUNG BUCKS TODAY, ”’DON’T DO IT, DON’T GO IN, DON’T JOIN, AMERICA ISN’T WORTH IT SHE IS NO LONGER WORTH DEFENDING..!”’
MAYBE, JUST MAYBE THE AMISH ARE RIGHT AND HAVE BEEN RIGHT ALL ALONG??? THE AMISH AND THE HOPI INDIANS,,, YEA THEY SEEM TO HAVE A FIRM GRIP ON PLANET EARTH AND ESCHATOLOGY IN GENERAL,THE LAST DAYS STUFF AND FINAL JUDGMENT, THE FINAL JUDGMENT… ”BRING IT ON…!”
IS NOT THE FINAL BATTLE NAMED, ARMAGEDDON,,, THE VIKINGS CALLED IT RAGNAROK, DIDN’T THEY? THE END BATTLE OF GOOD AND EVIL WHERE EVIL AND ALL THE EVIL ONES WILL BE NO MORE, THIS IS CALLED ARMAGEDDON RIGHT…? I KNEW IN 1968, I WAS ON A ”O.P.” AND TWO OF US TOGETHER SAW INTO IT ALL, TOGETHER AT THE SAME TIME, WE BOTH SPOKE IT OUT LOUD, ”WE WILL LIVE TO SEE THE END OF THE WORLD..!” WHAT A MOMENT..!
WHO NEEDS ALL THIS POLITICAL CORRUPTION, ECONOMIC CORRUPTION, SOCIAL EVOLUTION IN REVERSE… AMERICAN GANGSTERS ON THE STREET GIVE ME NO PROBLEMS BECAUSE THEY SENSE THAT I COULD AND WOULD KILL EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM IF IT CAME TO SHOVE, CALL IT A SPIRITUAL THING IF YOU WANT, THEY SENSE IT, THEY SEE IT IN MY EYES, I DON’T HAVE TO SAY A WORD, THEY KNOW… MUSLIMS MAKE ME WANT TO PUKE AND SO DO JEWS AND CHRISTIANS,,, I WAS IN NO WAY RELIGIOUS WHEN IN UNIFORM BUT I KNEW THAT GOD WAS WITH ME, THIS WAS PROVEN AND IS… I VENTURE THIS, A REAL SOLDIER,THE REAL SOLDIER IS LIVING PROOF THAT THERE IS A GOD…!
” FUCK ALL OF YOU, GET OUT OF MY WAY, I’M COMING THROUGH..!”
[AND IN THAT CARRY'N MY WOUNDED BROTHER]
” THE UNIFORM DOES NOT MAKE A SOLDIER…”
”THE SOLDIER MAKES THE UNIFORM…”
”SOLDIERS ARE BORN NOT MADE…”
” A SOLDIER IS OF THE HEART…”
”THE ETERNAL SOLDIER FIRST CONQUERS HIMSELF…”
”WITHOUT GOD AND A SOLDIER IS THE WORST OF BEAST, HE IS A DEVIL…”
”THE SOLDIERS FIRST ALLEGIANCE IS UNTO GOD, HE MAY NOT HAVE A
COUNTRY…”
” A NATIONS CHARACTER IS DISPLAYED BY ITS SOLDIERS…”
”THE NATION THAT BETRAYS ITS SOLDIERS IS DOOMED,,,SOME
SOLDIERS MUST BE BETRAYED BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT, SOLDIERS…
”BEWARE OF THE SOLDIER IMPOSTER…”
”ALL SOLDIERS MARCH, ALONE, ALL SOLDIERS MARCH ALONE, ALL…”
”TRUST NOT THE SOLDIER WHO SEEKS GLORY,..”
”ALL SOLDIERS KILL, ALL SOLDIERS ARE NOT KILLERS…”
”SOME SOLDIERS, ARE IMPOSTERS…”
”ONLY ONE MAN EVER IMPRESSED JESUS, HE WAS NOT A JEW, HE WAS
A ROMAN, A ROMAN INFANTRY OFFICER, THE CENTURION….”
”THE TRUE SOLDIER KNOWS WHEN TO KILL AND WHEN TO NOT KILL…”
A REMF IS A REAR, ESCHELON, MOTHER, F#*#@+R….
CIVILIANS DON’T KNOW SHIT,,,
YOU HAVE TO HAVE BEEN THERE TO UNDERSTAND…
HONOR MATTERS, TRUTH MATTERS, DIGNITY MATTERS, FORGIVENESS
MATTERS, LOVE MATTERS, FORGETFULNESS MATTERS, ALL OF THE
REST IS SIMPLY GOING TO BURN, BURN BABY BURN….
—–THE TRUE SOLDIER KNOWS WHEN TO DISOBEY A ORDER EVEN IF
HIS DISOBEDIENCE COST HIM HIS LIFE….——
I AM
CHARLES MARTEL
ALL SOLDIERS WEEP PROUDLY, WITHOUT SHAME
ALL SOLDIERS LAUGH PROUDLY, WITHOUT SHAME
THE SOLDIER
WHO DOES NOT WEEP AND LAUGH PROUDLY IS NOT
A SOLDIER AND HAS SHAME…
ALL TRUE SOLDIERS SHARE…
THE SOLDIER WHO DOES NOT SHARE
IS NOT A SOLDIER…
NO COWARD CAN BE A SOLDIER, BUT THE SOLDIER UNDERSTANDS
THE COWARD…
THE SOLDIER GIVES HIS LIFE, NOTHING CAN TAKE IT….
THE SOLDIER SALUTES, BUT BENDS HIS KNEES TO NO MAN…..
THE TRUE SOLDIER ONLY BENDS HIS KNEES TO HELP HIS WOUNDED,
FALLEN BROTHER….
DEATH HAS NO STING AND THE GRAVE HAS NO VICTORY FOR
ALL REAL SOLDIERS…
WEEP NOT FOR THE FALLEN SOLDIER DEPARTED FROM THIS LIFE, WEEP ONLY FROM YOUR OWN LACK OF UNDERSTANDING, FOR HE BELIEVED WHERE YOU COULD AND WOULD NOT……….
CHARLES MARTEL
YES, YES, IMMORTALITY IS A ABSOLUTE FACT, I HAVE MET THEM,THE IMMORTALS…
AMEN AND AMEN
FOREVER
IS NOT JUST A WORD
SERGENT WASSON,
HE DIDN’T SPEAK THE TRUTH, SERGENT WASSON LOVED HIS MEN, SERGENT WASSON WAS THE TRUTH…
THE NAME OF GOD IS
– I AM -
RANDY KAISER,
WHERE EVER YOU ARE YOU WERE THE BEST SEAL TO EVER BE A SEAL, IT IS MY ETERNAL HONOR TO HAVE HAD YOU AS A FRIEND, YOU TAUGHT ME TO FORGET MY WOUNDS…SEAL TEAM#1, YOU INVITED ME INTO YOUR CAMP AND SHARED, RANDY I LOVE YA BROTHER..
AMERICA YOU ARE DOOMED, YOU HAVE A BIG ARMY TODAY BUT YOU HAVE VERY,VERY FEW SOLDIERS, ITS NO WONDER THAT THE MARINES CAN NOT STAND TO BE AROUND THE ARMY… YOU MARINES ARE NOT MUCH BETTER THAN THE ARMY,I HAVE SEEN YOU AND TALKED WITH YOU.YOU SHOWED ME YOUR TRUE COLORS, NOT MUCH COLOR….
AMERICA, YOUR FINISHED, YOUR JUST NOT GOING TO MAKE IT, SO MANY TODAY CRY’N OUT ABOUT PTSD, YOU LIARS, COWARDS, ITS ALL ABOUT GET’N MORE MONEY,,
, WELL THEN YOU ARE TRUE AMERICANS, WHORES,DID THE ARE YOU NOT SONS AND DAUGHTERS OF YOUR MOTHER, THE MONEY WHORE AMERICA? GET YOUR MONEY AMERICAN WHORES BUT YOU WONT HAVE MUCH TIME TO SPEND IT, YOUR DESTRUCTION COMES QUICK AND YOU ALL SENSE IT COMING SOON DON’T YOU? YOU ARE CORRUPT FROM TOP TO BOTTOM AMERICA AND SO IS YOUR MILITARY, MOST OF IT…
I WOULD NOT DO WHAT I DID THEN, KNOWING WHAT I KNOW NOW AND SEEING WHAT I SEE NOW…
Posted on June 7th, 2009 at 10:53 pm
CHARLES MARTEL Says:
HUMM, A BUNCH OF PUNKS WILL NEVER MAKE A ARMY, A NATION OF PUNKS WILL NEVER PRODUCE A ARMY. ALLTHE TRAINING IN THE WORLD WILL NEVER TURN A PUNK INTO A SOLDIER… PUNKS GET KILLED, PUNKS GET OTHERS KILLED, THERE WERE NO PUNKS IN SPARTA, THE SPARTANS KILLED THEIR PUNKS SO THAT SPARTA WOULDN’T GET KILLED, SMART AND TOUGH ONLY WINS… THE SPARTANS KILLED THEIR OWN CHILDREN IF THEY WERE, PUNKS OR PUNKETTS , TOSSED’ EM OUTSIDE THE CITY WALLS AND LET THE WOLVES AND WILD DOGS EAT’EM, SPARTA WON, AND WON, AND WON, AND,,,,,
SHUT UP PUNK AND TAKE THE PAIN, TAKE THE PAIN, TALE IT ALL, PAIN IS A TEACHER. SPARTANS DIDN’T COMPLAIN ABOUT BATTLE OF SUFFERING AND THEY DIDN’T WHIMPER ABOUT PTSD. MY DAD NEVER DID ASK FOR MEDS OR SHRINK ATTENTION AND HE WAS ON THE BRIDGE OF THE USS CUNNINGHAM DD347 AT 8;OO AM WHEN THE JAPS BOMBED PEARL, SAW COMBAT 57 TIMES ETC,ETC. WAS ON GUADELCANEL FOR 7 MONTHS WITH THE MARINES AND ARMY, SAW GUYS DECAPATATED, ARMS BLOWN OFF, BALLS BLOWN OFF HE WAS BLOWN 4O FEET OFF A SIGNALTOWER…
WE LIVE IN DISGUSTING TIMES VERN, AMERICANS ARE DISGUSTING AND THEY DESERVE WHATS COMING, THEY DESERVE WHAT THEY ARE GOING TO GET, VERN, JUST WATCH WHAT HAPPENS TO’EM, JUST WATCH VERN,THEY ACTUALLY THINK THEY ARE SLICKER THAN GOD, HA HA, VERN THIS IS BETTER THAN LAUREL AND HARDEY VERN…
Posted on June 8th, 2009 at 12:09 am
CHARLES MARTEL Says:
MY VET BROTHERS
DON’T TELL THE CIVILIAN PUKES SHIT, WHAT DID YOU FORGET SO SOON? ”NEVER TRUST A CIVILIAN, AND NEVER TRUST THE AIR FORCE, AND DON’T EVER TRUST THE U.S.GOVERMENT, THEY HATE US, SHUT UP, SHUT UP, SHUT YOUR BIG MOUTHS, ZIP YOUR STUPID LIPS AND WAKE UP…ONLY TRUST ANOTHER BROTHER WHO HAS BEEN THERE AND NO ONE ELSE. A REAL BROTHER WILL KNOW IF YOU WERE REALLY THERE OR NOT,SO DON’T FAKE IT….GEORGE PATTON, YEA GENERAL PATTON IF HE WERE ALIVE TODAY HE WOULD SHOOT MOST OF YOU AND SO WOULD MY DAD. THE WW2 GUYS KNEW LAW NUMBER ONE, # 1. SHUT UP # 2 SHUT UP # 3 SHUT UP ALL TEN LAWS FOR US VETS ARE ”SHUT YOUR MOUTH” DO NOT TELL THEM SHIT, DID YOU FORGET SO SOON OR MAYBE NONE OF THE IDIOTS IN TODAYS MILITARY KNEW ENOUGH TO TELL YOU , OR THEY JUST DIDN’T CARE ENOUGH TO TELL YOU, NEVER GO TO ANY CIVILIAN FOR SYMPATHY, DO YOU NEED SYMPATHY SOLDIER, IF YOU DO YOUR NOT MUCH OF A SOLDIER… THE CIVILIANS SHOULD BE COMING TO US FOR THE ANSWERS, NOT US GOING TO ANY OF THEM, FORGET AMERICAN WOMEN, GET A UKRANIAN OR SERBIAN WIFE, EVEN RUSSIAN, SERBIAN WOMEN ARE THE BEST BUT THEY HATE AMERICANS AND UNDERSTAND WHY, BECAUSE OF WHAT AMERICA DID TO THEM IN WW 2 AS WELL AS BOSNIA AND RECENTLY KOSOVO, STUDY UP,FIND OUT THE TRUTH AND YOU COULD GET YOURSELF A SERBIAN WIFE FOR LIFE…LONG LIVE SERBIA…GOOD MUSLIM=DEAD MUSLIM=SERBIA, AMEN.,.
”I AM”
CHARLES MARTEL
REMEMBER, THE US. GOVERNMENT DOES NOT WANT THE US TO”WIN” THE US LOVES LOOSERS, YOU WIN WHEN YOU KNOW THE US GOVERNMENT IS THE LOOSER, DON’T GO TO A LOOSER FOR HELP, JUST TAKE AUTHORITY AND YOU USE THEM, NOT THEM YOU..
Posted on June 8th, 2009 at 1:04 am
Dave Martin Says:
Charles, I would have to agree with you. I spent 8 years in the US Navy. I wish I would’ve retired. It would’ve been the only thing I received from this country.
Posted on October 9th, 2009 at 9:29 pm